Here is the video we watched in class today – Peter J Williams on New Atheists & Old Testament (incl. The Canaanites):
Here is the note-taking form I handed out:
Dr. Peter J. Williams: New Atheists & Old Testament 12/10/2017
- Objection – God commands the destruction of the Canaanites in the Old Testament
- Is that your most difficult/important question? If so, other ones can be dealt with too
Religion and violence
- Secularist conclusion: Religion causes violence – this is true in part
- Other things cause violence too: politics, leadership, thinking, etc.
- M__ & S_____ (atheists) responsible for more deaths (80-100 million) than all the religious wars
- Can people be held responsible for what is done in their name? Karl Marx, Charles Darwin, Buddha, Jesus Christ
- Objections about violence in the Old Testament:
- General reporting of war and conflict
- Penalties in Old Testament laws.
- God tells his people to destroy the Canaanites.
- Atheist equate Old Testament violence with religious t______________ and g___________.
Morality and the nature of the universe
- Atheists and Christians disagree about the n______________ of the universe.
- God commanding Abraham to sacrifice Isaac, affected by Abraham’s view of the universe.
- What is the right thing to do? The right thing to do is what God c_______________.
- The character of God. God reveals himself as merciful. Old Testament gives record of His gracious actions. God has p_____________ c______________. Humans can trust Him.
- Think about these situations, do they bear guilt? A tiger kill someone? Someone who kills by accident? Someone who kills while mentally ill? Someone who sincerely believes he has authorization? Someone who actually has authorization? 9/11 executive authorization to shoot down planes? Not obviously wrong.
The Old Testament story of the destruction of the Canaanites
- The new atheists launch two simultaneous attacks on the Old Testament.
- It didn’t h_______________.
- It’s u____________.
- In order for an atheist to critique the m_____________ of a story in the Old Testament, they have to enter into that story.
- God is character in story-can’t say, I don’t believe in God, therefore d______ Him from the story.
- What you need to know about the Canaanites.
- They were punished for their wickedness, not for their race.
- Rahab and extended family were spared, Joshua 6:25.
- When Israel committed same sins as Canaanites, judged like the Canaanites.
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- The people in the land knew what God could do and chose to resist.
- The Canaanites had s________________ their children, Deuteronomy 12:31.
- What you need to know about the Israelite Conquest.
- Israel had a unique position as God’s judicial r_________________.
- Accompanied by miracles as sign that it was not of human initiative.
- They could not they could not reasonably doubt God’s command.
- The punishment should be l_________________ by proportionality.
- Unparalleled restraint in ancient warfare.
- What if?
- Put an end to Canaanite child sacrifice.
- Over centuries might result in killing of fewer children.
- What you need to know about God.
- Merciful/gracious, slow to anger & abounding in love & faithfulness, Exodus 34:6.
- God delayed their p___________________ by hundreds of years:
- The iniquity of the Amorites is not yet complete, Genesis 15:16.
- In the story, God actually did most of the f__________________.
- Doesn’t the Bible Encourage people to kill others today?
- Absolutely not!
- No group has same judicial position as Israel had on Earth.
- God did not order their action privately, but with greatest show of signs and all history.
- Completely different from all modern wars.
- Readers know they’re reading about something unique.
- Dawkins says story of Joshua is morally indistinguishable from H______ or S_________ Hussein.
- Here are the differences.
- Specific guilt.
- Not indiscriminate.
- Concern for children.
- 400 year delay.
- Warning ignored.
- Warrant.
- God fights.
- Example of amputation by a s___________ versus an amputation as a part of a t_________ act.
- Which objection is being made?
- It was immoral for God to command the destruction of the Canaanites.
- It was immoral for the Israelites to obey such a command if it really was given in the way the Bible describes.
- Conclusion.
- Problem isn’t taken away.
- Not all questions are answered.
- But most difficult moral objection to Bible is shown not to be a conclusive d__________.
- Christ on the cross took our sins on Himself. What happened to the Canaanites becomes for us a picture of how a__________ s_______ is and how much Jesus Christ did on the cross.